tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post624882469647476064..comments2024-03-29T09:18:29.382+09:00Comments on What a Horrible Night to Have a Curse...: Brave Sir Robin Ran AwayDennis Laffeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03053699552003336733noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-18131133174789695692012-03-17T10:58:43.549+09:002012-03-17T10:58:43.549+09:00I'm sure your art degree from Yale and your ga...I'm sure your art degree from Yale and your gallery showings are why you aren't pretentious.<br /><br />Oh, what's that? <i>You <b>haven't</b> managed to make a name for yourself in a creative field?</i><br /><br />He's not pretentious. He's <i>successful</i>. You aren't erudite enough to tell the difference.-Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02331863932906631618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-21560870475078152852012-03-17T02:48:48.192+09:002012-03-17T02:48:48.192+09:00Dave,
The first part of your post is gratuitous ru...Dave,<br />The first part of your post is gratuitous rudeness that makes everything else you say worthless blah blah.artikidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17474295473142339717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-29212329392361084392012-03-17T02:09:06.391+09:002012-03-17T02:09:06.391+09:00Effectiveness or lack thereof is no part of my arg...Effectiveness or lack thereof is no part of my argument.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-48782625789112085632012-03-17T02:04:47.586+09:002012-03-17T02:04:47.586+09:00Hark, an assfuck!
First, a lesson for you, assfuc...Hark, an assfuck!<br /><br />First, a lesson for you, assfuck:<br />Regular girls decide they want to fuck you while they fuck you, hookers decide they don't want to fuck you before they fuck you, porn actresses decide whether they want to fuck you while they fuck you.<br /><br />Second, your assfuckery is confirmed by the fact that you used the phrase "warrior poet" and meant it.<br /><br />Third, do not call me a prostitute.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-1086963120623317102011-12-16T21:42:42.232+09:002011-12-16T21:42:42.232+09:00Ryan - I think the problem I have with the Bard th...Ryan - I think the problem I have with the Bard these days is that no version of it I've seen published has really been about the lore and the music. There's too much other stuff crufted onto them. I'd either like a Bard class that is ONLY about the magical music plus knowledge, or else as I said, make it an NPC hireling/specialist that your PC can employ.<br /><br />They shouldn't be "a little Fighter, a little Thief, a little Druid or Magic-User, plus some Knowledge and Music." It should really focus on the latter two only IMO.Dennis Laffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03053699552003336733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-69120891525104534112011-12-15T11:30:59.227+09:002011-12-15T11:30:59.227+09:00Any class can fight, so why have fighters? Anyone ...Any class can fight, so why have fighters? Anyone who steals is a thief... but the fighter and thief are <i>good</i> at fighting and stealing. Sure, you can play a character of any class who can sing or play an instrument, or even a character who is a lore specialist, but the bard is the character who is supposed to be good at these things. <br /><br />The bard isn't necessary...you are right. He is also frequently presented in a ridiculous and/or annoying light. <br /><br />I've always found the bard to be welcome in my campaigns, though I continually tweak exactly what the class is capable of... I've fielded versions of the bard class that are close to thieves in the way that rangers are close to fighters,and I've had versions of the class that are more akin to spellcasters. I don't know that any published version of the class has been "perfect," and yet D&D without bards just doesn't seem complete, somehow. <br /><br />I'll freely admit that it might just be Sacred Cow syndrome, like descending armor class...DMWieghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03682249561077936507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-71384246033739994892011-12-15T03:02:34.603+09:002011-12-15T03:02:34.603+09:00Yeah, I'm not a fan of Zakk. I find him awful...Yeah, I'm not a fan of Zakk. I find him awfully pretentious--i.e. "I'm so cool because I play D&D with incredibly girls that get f--ked for money but aren't prostitutes and I, like, totally respect them, man."<br /><br />... yeah...<br /><br />Anyway, bards are versatile and can be played a variety of ways. I like Monte Cook's bard variant with the spellsongs instead of spells. There've been wandering bard adventurers throughout history and literature ever since Aristeas of Proconessus. The Pythagoreans studied mathematics and music theory almost as if they were arcane subjects (like alchemy). The bard doesn't have to wear a "poofy hat" and "poofy shirt" like Zakk says. Hell, I played a bard one time that was basically a barrister--his "perform" abilities were all about speaking, persuading, and such.<br /><br />Man, where did all these people with small imaginations come from? Jeez.<br /><br />Besides, I'm not surprised no one has heard the phrase "warrior-poet" before. Damn shame that is.Dave Cesaranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01454928720043301400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-70389873791901194132011-12-14T23:16:32.422+09:002011-12-14T23:16:32.422+09:00Nahh, bards are great, easily my favorite characte...Nahh, bards are great, easily my favorite character class. I've played bards in AD&D, 2nd edition AD&D and 3/3.5; never once felt the class didn't work or was underpowered. Saying their abilities are overshadowed by other classes is an erroneous claim, as that assumes a class must be the pinnacle of superiority in a particular area. Bards are second-best at everything, that's their schtick. Saying they suck misses the whole point.Bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06596247660364673313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-70982715675114154202011-12-14T21:49:35.703+09:002011-12-14T21:49:35.703+09:00Caption for your picture of the Bard:
"Ahem! ...Caption for your picture of the Bard:<br /><i>"Ahem! That's MISTER Dicksack to you!"</i>Stefan Poaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192911890556534923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-45367568139372468982011-12-14T17:41:24.890+09:002011-12-14T17:41:24.890+09:00Guess so. The way you kept phrasing things, it se...Guess so. The way you kept phrasing things, it seemed like that point was secondary, and that because of that, the Bard, which is just a motley fool with a lute, is worthless. <br /><br />So basically, we agree. No need for its own class, just roleplay the other classes to pull it off.Dennis Laffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03053699552003336733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-71808551479047451442011-12-14T16:47:55.052+09:002011-12-14T16:47:55.052+09:00you missed my point.
the point isn't that bar...you missed my point.<br /><br />the point isn't that bards can only conform to one image, it is that every other image they can conform to is done better by someone else.Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5255299705122830812.post-29373582035839463052011-12-14T16:23:58.626+09:002011-12-14T16:23:58.626+09:00I once worked on an RPG where the concept was you ...I once worked on an RPG where the concept was you would go adventure and then you would go back to the tavern and tell your stories to the populace; you'd get half your earned XP from actual adventuring, and the other half from storytelling. It was kind of neat, because you could track how much XP you got from storytelling, and if you reached a certain threshold, you earned followers.<br /><br />Anyway, the bard in that game basically gave you a bonus to XP when storytelling, gave a bonus to XP for the purposes of recruiting proteges, and was able to identify magical objects/history and cultural stuff. Sure, they had a few thief abilities and could smooth over social conflicts, but they didn't have magic, they weren't fighters, and they weren't thieves. Basically, you dragged them along because they gave you bonus XP and could identify magic stuff.<br /><br />Maybe with all the freaking clones, I should go back to the idea of redoing this one as a clone.Orionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12544318089839943358noreply@blogger.com